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Re: my first power bill after solar (call the paramedics)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:33 am
by Gordon-Loomberah
kaddy wrote:Is it really worth turning everything off at the power points. Is there much to be saved?


The energy monitor should be able to tell you what is using a lot of power when in standby. Some devices use more electricity when plugged in but not turned on than when they are turned on and being used! such as the stereo we have here, so it is always turned off at the power board.

Re: my first power bill after solar (call the paramedics)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:09 pm
by Smurf1976
There's also the point that turning off appliances at the power point means less chance of the house burning down.

That, not saving energy, is the primary reason I do it. I just don't like the idea of leaving the house unattended knowing that there are multiple switchmode power supplies running, for no good reason, and all of them housed in at least partially flammable enclosures (ie plastic - it WILL burn no matter how "fire retardent" the manufacturer assures you it is).

That plus many of these power supplies fail after about 4 years sitting there running 24/7 - I have better things to do with my money than to fix / replace appliances and pay for wasted electricity.

Re: my first power bill after solar (call the paramedics)

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:04 pm
by Chooktopia
Exactly what I was going to say :)

Plasmas are a huge sucker of energy even on standby, and I can't remember the statistic but tvs on standby are a major cause of housefires.

Re: my first power bill after solar (call the paramedics)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:49 am
by kaddy
Hi everyone

I am going to put my 50" plasma on the monitor next to see how much it is using on standby.

I have monitored my old fridge (about 23 years old) It is using 46cents per day. Is this really bad. What would a large modern fridge use. Would like to monitor my side by side with ice and water dispenser but unfortunately I can't get in to move it.

Have discovered that my ducted is sucking a mighty $1.35 per hour !! So if I ran that for about 6 hours per day 7 days a week we would probably be looking at around $600 per quarter.
So much for the installer telling me it would use about 90 cents per day. Ho Ho Ho

I am turning into an electricity monitor myself. Checking this that and the other. I am determined that I will never have another bill like the last one.

Thanks guys for all of your input. It has really opened my eyes to what is using what. :geek:

Re: my first power bill after solar (call the paramedics)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:56 am
by Gordon-Loomberah
kaddy wrote:I have monitored my old fridge (about 23 years old) It is using 46cents per day.


That's a bit over 2kWh/day, which isnt all that flash, but not desperately bad. The 2 even older fridges we have use 1 -1.5kWh, depending on how hot it is. My parents used to have a big 2 door side by side, which used around 10kWh/day, quite a bit more than my whole house uses per day :shock:

Re: my first power bill after solar (call the paramedics)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:30 am
by kaddy
Wow 10 kwh per day for the big side by side. Mine is a big side by side (about 4 years old) Probably using that much as well. Will just have to use other energy guzzlers less to compensate. :idea:

Re: my first power bill after solar (call the paramedics)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:29 am
by Tracker
Gordon-Loomberah wrote:My parents used to have a big 2 door side by side, which used around 10kWh/day,

OUCH..! :( .. .. That's one sick puppy..

My BIG AMANA draws 170W, call it 200W.. It draws up to 5KwH on a hot day, and I am not happy at that.
I will fix another fridge and replace the AMANA when I can.

IF yours had six-hourly defrosts, at 500W for 20Mins, that's about 0.7KwH
23 hours continuous running would be about 5KwH, so ... 10KwH is one very sick refrigerator

I had a Kelvinator (40yo) and it drew 6KwH a day, and when I discovered that fact, I immediately smashed it, so that i could not use it again..

2KwH a day would be hard to beat for most domestic refrigerators.

kaddy wrote:I have monitored my old fridge (about 23 years old) It is using 46cents per day..........discovered that my ducted is sucking a mighty $1.35 per hour !! ...

at what energy cost..
..
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Re: my first power bill after solar (call the paramedics)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:07 am
by Gordon-Loomberah
Tracker wrote:2KwH a day would be hard to beat for most domestic refrigerators.


That may well be for "modern efficient" fridges (with the condensor coils bult into the walls), but the ancient 70's fridges we are using here consume about half that, and my ancient (1940s I think) Crosley Shelvador (Sealed unit manufactured in Sydney by James N Kirby Pty Ltd!) used under 1kWh/day, no doubt helped along by the 75mm thick insulation it has. It died, but I plan to resurrect it with a 24V unit I had reconditioned about 15 years ago, and new door seals, and it will be better than a new one :)

Re: my first power bill after solar (call the paramedics)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:11 pm
by kaddy
I cannot find out what my LG side by side uses. I rang LG and they told me that I had to look at the star rating sticker on the front of the fridge (long gone). I said it seems strange that you cannot tell me the energy rating on one of your products, but they said no they cannot. Some customer service. The only way I can find out is if somebody has the same model and knows what energy it draws.

Model No. GR-L 247STB. If anybody has this model I would love to hear from you.

Thanks

Re: my first power bill after solar (call the paramedics)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:41 pm
by Gordon-Loomberah
Your energy monitor will tell you the truth about how much energy your LG uses, dont worry about what anyone else's uses! Leave it on for a few days or a week, to get a good average daily usage for this time of year.