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Re: Too Good TO IGNORE ?? - 10c Extra - for solar export

Postby davidg » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:07 pm

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By the way (off topic), have you seen the unit Fronius are developing involving electrolysis, hydrogen storage and fuel cell, as an alternative to batteries? Sounds expensive, but so are battery banks. The fuel cell component is already being sold, and there is no new technology in electrolysis and compressed gas storage, so that might be a goer by 2017.

Then it's fed to a fuel cell later on, crikey you could do that now. I just don't like the cost of fuel cells ATM. The rest of it is not rocket science. :lol: 8-)
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Re: Too Good TO IGNORE ?? - 10c Extra - for solar export

Postby Tracker » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:48 am

Tracker wrote:......By the way (off topic), have you seen the unit Fronius are developing involving electrolysis, ...


No , Tracker did not write.. ;)

The technology has been around for many years, but not packaged for domestic use..
The closest that I know of, is the BlueGen system using natural gas
I can't imagine the inefficiencies of electrolysis, and electric compression/storage, and then fuel cell type power generation/inversion.. and then the COST, both capital and maintenance.
.... At least the fuel cell process would be cleaner than the natural gas version..

As for the original post, I was thinking about how confusing the thread has been (looking back).

It typifies the problems with ALL these offers.. and that it is hard to believe all the offers.
They initially look great, and all they want is to get you to churn.
How many times have we read .... "...and after changing, we seem to be paying more than previously..."

I heard a promotion today, for the GB 50UPclub promotion and it declared that they got commissions for presenting the offers to "members"...

I think we ALL have to be very careful with these offers, that increasingly, will set out to deceive .. and leave us trying to reverse the churn, after it's too late..
This experience has shown that you can't even believe what you read as fine print..

The issue seems to be that we SOLAR CUSTOMERS, seem to again be targeted for the sucker punch.. as though they are saying, ... ".. and you are saving so much, anyway, you can afford to pay more..."


I am SOoo disappointed that a group claiming to be there for members, is nothing more than a money making concern..
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Re: Too Good TO IGNORE ?? - 10c Extra - for solar export

Postby Card Shark » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:33 am

I just joined these guys too in QLD and have the following observations.

At signup I just had my meter read and despite the sales person saying my meter was booked to be read again within 10 days to move over, a month passed so I called the sales rep who reported they no longer did mid cycle reads due to the cost by the network provider. So this means I was still with my old supplier with no discounts which are usually about $150 waiting to become a click customer.

My first hypothetical bill arrived and I was charged $67 instead of the advertised $50. On the back of the bill I noted only 2 of the 3 tariffs I have on property (11+33). These were apparently used to calculate my usage. Where solar (40) should have been, there was the wording "Solar Bonus Import Tariff" and a "reduced rate" of .18 instead of the previous .54. Called billing and after some discussion they waived the first bill and advised I needed to submit a form 1641 to Energex to restore my correct tariff. Energex advised this was common and means the reseller submitted a form reporting a "new customer" that started at the base tariff instead of reporting the move of an "existing".

The next meter read is in a week so it will be interesting to actually compare my first bill with real numbers. I have a 3kw and have not had a bill post install, usually receiving a credit of $50 - 120 a quarter. Good thing I guess is there are no exit fees if Shine is not ultimately better. CS
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CLICK Energy - 10c Extra - for solar export

Postby Tracker » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:27 pm

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Has anyone heard of what is happening with Gross FIT and Clicks claim of 10c extra..

Again - I was churning, but then managed to cancel.. There is more than devil in the detail..

At least the radio station is now declaring that they will get a commission from recommending the product..
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Re: Too Good TO IGNORE ?? - 10c Extra - for solar export

Postby Tracker » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:14 am

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Well, I have listened to their constant claims, on the radio, and have again made contact..

They insist that someone advised me incorrectly, and that indeed, they pay the 10c to everyone..
10c plus any formal government bonuses ...

If you now get 8c, then that will increase to the 10c... not 18c, as the concept of 'bonus' suggests :(

So the package is..
..10c per kWH grid fed.
..they determine your feed in amount, and subtract it from the Power used and then give a 7% discount on that..

All as originally believed, but confused by staff who did not understand..
All-in-all, a good package for those on GROSS feed in, and then, if you are on NETt feed in, then being at work during the days, with resulting larger feed in, could make that worth the change.. :D
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SO.... has anyone made the leap of faith
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CLICK ENERGY - not what they seemed to be..

Postby Tracker » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:06 am

BUMP..

I bumped this topic because some water has flowed under the bridge and it seems to be pretty muddy,
when it comes to CLICK..

http://www.productreview.com.au/p/click-energy.html

bottom line... There seems to be some VERY consistent issues with billing, rates and so on..

CLICK representatives seem to be continually saying...
thank you for your post and I assure you we are aware our bills can sometimes be confusing. We are working on ways to make them much easier to decipher.


it does seem like our energy plan was properly explained,

and Customers saying..
....So I went back to previouse supplier and performed a retro transfer which reverses everything from the start of the transition like you never transferred. My bills came to $300 from $493...


Sounds like the YARRA RIVER of energy Retailers..
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