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Claiming STC when panels replaced under warranty

Postby magbusser » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:57 pm

Who is entitled to claim STC's when the panels are replaced under warranty at no cost to the householder?
We have been asked by the installer to assign the STC to him after a recent warranty replacement. Is this correct?
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Re: Claiming STC when panels replaced under warranty

Postby davidg » Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:48 pm

magbusser wrote:Who is entitled to claim STC's when the panels are replaced under warranty at no cost to the householder?
We have been asked by the installer to assign the STC to him after a recent warranty replacement. Is this correct?

Has the site already had STC's claimed? If they (panels) were replaced under warranty I find it difficult to believe that there are any STC's available claim or assign, afterall it was a warranty not an install or upgrade.
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Re: Claiming STC when panels replaced under warranty

Postby magbusser » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:57 am

STC already claimed on original install (30x190w).
Warranty replacements 30x195w upgraded panels.
No answer to date from ORER maybe too hard for them?
STC 30 x 195 as an upgrade or 30 x 05 the latter being the upgraded size only?
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Re: Claiming STC when panels replaced under warranty

Postby davidg » Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:08 am

magbusser wrote:STC already claimed on original install (30x190w) ......... replacements 30x195w


Is there a premium FIT of some sort involved, in that it is already being received? State ?
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Re: Claiming STC when panels replaced under warranty

Postby Gordon-Loomberah » Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:12 am

If it was to be done properly with full accounting for the STC/RECs, I would have thought you'd have to pay back the credits previously received for the 190W panels, covering the reminder of their life that is being lost, as an offset against any new claims that could be made.
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Re: Claiming STC when panels replaced under warranty

Postby davidg » Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:26 am

Gordon-Loomberah wrote:If it was to be done properly with full accounting for the STC/RECs

I would imagine that would be more what is supposed to happen.

Gordon-Loomberah wrote:I would have thought you'd have to pay back the credits previously received for the 190W panels

As gordon says.

If there was ever an audit and it was found there were STC's claimed effectively twice for the same roof area and the orginal panels werereplaced under warranty. I reckon I'd dislike being the receipient of that can of worms. Much easier to stay away from it all together and sleep much better at night.
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Re: Claiming STC when panels replaced under warranty

Postby magbusser » Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:55 pm

The clean energy regulator has responded as follows

Replacing existing panels due to warranty is an eligible way to create STCs, it is similar (on the application for STCs) to upgrading an existing system. You will need to ensure the new installation meets all the standard eligibility criteria as per our webpage ‘How to create STCs for small-scale solar’:

Very interesting and quite lawful to claim the full replacement STC value!!!
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Re: Claiming STC when panels replaced under warranty

Postby davidg » Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:11 pm

magbusser wrote:The clean energy regulator has responded as follows
Very interesting and quite lawful to claim the full replacement STC value!!!


Amazing, I wonder how they justify that. After all the old panels are not going to anything now, anyway good luck, just remember any STC's are actually owned by the property owner, you can create them your self, it's really not that hard to do.
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Re: Claiming STC when panels replaced under warranty

Postby Tracker » Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:12 am

davidg wrote:
magbusser wrote:........ I wonder how they justify that. After all the old panels are not going to anything now, .....


I must say that I am not surprised .. :?

Everything we have heard of how STC's are created, suggests that it is a National Scam, where ANY opportunity to create credits, looks good Nationally.
No way is it within the spirit of the creation process.....
THEY. don't seem to care about what you do, just so long as THEY grow their statistics..

Eg. THEY don't care that a system is installed on a southern roof face or completely shaded by trees..
They don't care if systems are moved or removed..

Grrrrrr.... :evil:
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Re: Claiming STC when panels replaced under warranty

Postby Tracker » Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:23 am

......you can create them your self, it's really not that hard to do.....

But.... don't they demand accreditation numbers..?
I don't think that I or my electrician could replace or add panels and claim the credits... :cry:

If the supplier has the number and is happy to let you use it, then you might be OK...

David... any comments ..?
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