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Sydney - New Rates - New Times - TOU

Postby Tracker » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:04 pm

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Just got a notification from Retailer-Energy Australia, declaring that AusGrid has made some changes to charges..

The stated that they would be changing the actual times for TOU Tariffs , according to time of the year..
and deleting PEAK altogether in the "Off-Seasons"

So there will be TOU in Summer - Nov to March and Winter - June to August
Also - the actual PEAK period will change for SUMMER 1400 to 2000hrs and WINTER 1700 to 2100hrs

In the Off-Seasons - there will be just Off-Peak and Shoulder..

Naturally they put the prices up

Electricity rates from 2 July 2018
PEAK 59.3 (dropped from 60.4c)
SHOULDER 31.0
Off-PEAK 19
whilst the DAILY CHARGE remains at $1.06
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Funny how the Governments are talking about REDUCED costs.. Go Figure..
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Re: Sydney - New Rates - New Times - TOU

Postby Gordon-Loomberah » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:49 pm

I don't suppose they are going to match that for your clean energy exports and give you peak rates for PV exported when demand is highest ... and they make the most profit from it?
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Re: Sydney - New Rates - New Times - TOU

Postby davidg » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:03 pm

Tracker wrote:deleting PEAK altogether in the "Off-Seasons"

So there will be TOU in Summer - Nov to March and Winter - June to August
Also - the actual PEAK period will change for SUMMER 1400 to 2000hrs and WINTER 1700 to 2100hrs

Funny how the Governments are talking about REDUCED costs.. Go Figure..
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Time for an SP-Pro :D 8 profiles you can customise to suit these various time frames and seasons and only draw from battery bank/pack when prices are silly. Charge when there good and so on. # just saying.
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Re: Sydney - New Rates - New Times - TOU

Postby Tracker » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:28 am

Gordon-Loomberah wrote:. and they make the most profit from it?


Not Bloody Likely..

Irrelevant NOW, for me as the exports are generally zero anyway..
Summer PEAK starts at 2PM and the WINTER at 5pm - and the sun is G.O.N.E.
so zero from that anyway..

An assumption is that ALL WHOLESALERS and RETAILERS will follow suit given the National MARKET..!
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Re: Sydney - New Rates - New Times - TOU

Postby Tracker » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:17 pm

davidg wrote:Time for an SP-Pro :D .


I'm still super uncertain as to which way to jump.
ATM - I am storing about 10KWH in the form of Hot Water..
Next - I STILL need to add that 2kW of virtual tracker power 2/1W + 1/3E
By then I will likely have sufficient power to review "Storage"
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I had really thought that by now, Government would have implemented "Distributed Storage" via subsidised Battery systems..
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Ultimately I want to CHARGE batteries first and then use residual power to pre-heat the water storage system, so that NO POWER is wasted..
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Change Subject - In 2018 - what is the rule of thumb for practical Power from Solar..
ie.. it used to be that a 2kW array would likely only deliver 1.6kW of real power..
Anyone got any idea what to expect using newer GCI's..??
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Re: Sydney - New Rates - New Times - TOU

Postby davidg » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:06 pm

Tracker wrote:Anyone got any idea what to expect using newer GCI's..??
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An actual GCI for any half decent inverter is above 95% typical, however the actual power generated is controlled by the amount of sun that falls on the array, So depending on the angle the shade or no shade cloud and so on, that's what really controls the power output, over sizing the array helps a lot virtual tracking also helps, using export control allows for even bigger systems while only exporting a specific amount if that's part of the requirements.

There is no one size fits all, for instance lets say you choose to export ZERO and only use the grid as a generator then you can do it, if you choose to export upto what the limit is then you can do that and have say batteires for storage and something else as well if desired, you may choose to export to offset the cost of the connection.

the options are pretty much endless nowadays.
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Re: Sydney - New Rates - New Times - TOU

Postby australsolarier » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:48 am

TOU in my area is a total loss financially wise. the standing charge is higher. the only thing lower is off peak from the standard contract. you would absolutely not save any money.
what's so strange with this model, the power company wants you to help them even out peak periods, but then charges you more for the privilege.
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Re: Sydney - New Rates - New Times - TOU

Postby Tracker » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:12 pm

australsolarier wrote:TOU .... the power company wants you to help them even out peak periods, but then charges you more for the privilege.


Ita Vero... I had not seen how much they had snuck the OP cost up.. Just "ASSUMED" it was all relative..

A task for another day - "Check out standard rates" ;-)
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