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Re: Who gets the power

Postby melmik » Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:40 am

Ulladulla is NSW, and Origin 20c in NSW over 6 years could well be gross (GFIT), so like me you will probably need a meter change to a net meter at the end of the year. 20c in NSW was the lower gfit rate for those who signed up too late to get 60c.

Then you will self consume first, then export your (in your case large) excess to the grid and Origin will pay you around 6c a kilowatt.....hopefully!

Have you received your NSW govt and Origin letters explaining the change? I'd suggest calling Origin to confirm - not that they are all that helpful - they still dont seem to have any fixed plan/rate in place.

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Re: Who gets the power

Postby Volcano » Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:08 pm

I'm Thinking now to make a switch to Powershop,they will pay me 22c instead of 20c and 7c instead of 5c in 2017,and my Kwh usage will also be lower by 2C,I know it's not much,but it's better than anyone else at this stage,
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Re: Who gets the power

Postby australsolarier » Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:09 am

yes but consider the connection charges, if i remember right they are about 20c/day higher. so you have to feed in quite a bit before you are ahead.
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Re: Who gets the power

Postby Smurf1976 » Sat Sep 03, 2016 12:44 pm

Volcano wrote:Wow,thanks for that.


I should add that Tasmania is also connected to the Qld / NSW / ACT / Vic / SA grid but is connected via a DC link.

That link can and does transfer energy between Tas and the other states but since it's a DC link rather than AC the island state is not synchronised (frequency) to the other states. Rather, depending on which direction power is flowing, it acts like a load at one end and a generator at the other end the same as any other load (albeit a rather large one) or power station.

NT, WA, Mt Isa and remote areas have their own power systems not connected to elsewhere.
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Re: Who gets the power

Postby davidg » Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:50 pm

Smurf1976 wrote:
Volcano wrote:Wow,thanks for that.


I should add that Tasmania is also connected to the Qld / NSW / ACT / Vic / SA grid but is connected via a DC link. That link can and does transfer energy between Tas and the other states but since it's a DC link

Which unless its been fixed very recently. It has been down (burntout underwater) many months, they had to install a heap very large generators because they did not have enough water in reserve, it had been used it produce green eneegy for the rest of aus and with link broken they were in dire straits.
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Re: Who gets the power

Postby Smurf1976 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:08 pm

davidg wrote:Which unless its been fixed very recently. It has been down (burntout underwater) many months

Let's just say I know about that drama all too well.... :D

Cable failed 20 December 2015 and ended up taking 6 months to fix. Meanwhile we got the worst drought on record in Tas.

End result is that hydro storages reached an all time record low of 12.5% (with the second largest storage, Lake Gordon, down to 5.8%) and we ended up with about 150 diesel generators hooked up to the grid, plus three oil-fired gas turbines, plus the gas-fired gas turbines we already had.

The whole drama ended up costing Hydro about $180 million all up. Gas, diesel, hire of generators and so on. Running open cycle gas turbines, which are generally used for backup power, 24/7 wasn't particularly economical but if you've run out of other options then that's what you do. Running diesels cost even more per kWh but they were going flat out 24/7 too out of necessity.

All fixed now though. Cable fixed in June, the diesels have been sent back to their owners, the gas turbines are idle and storages are back up to 38% and rising. That the record drought was followed by one of the worst floods on record helped lift storages although obviously the flooding was bad in other ways.
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Re: Who gets the power

Postby davidg » Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:35 pm

Smurf1976 wrote:Cable failed 20 December 2015 and ended up taking 6 months to fix. Meanwhile we got the worst drought on record in Tas.

End result is that hydro storages reached an all time record low of 12.5% (with the second largest storage, Lake Gordon, down to 5.8%) and we ended up with about 150 diesel generators hooked up to the grid, plus three oil-fired gas turbines, plus the gas-fired gas turbines we already had.


:) , I suspect if there was not such a huge push to sell Green Power at as big a profit as possible to the rest of AUS, I doubt you (TAS) would ever have been in such a position, I believe it was known before it went bye-bye there was an issue with the ability to deliver the capacity the cable was being asked to do (likely bean counters and or senior management, purely looking at the bottom line), yet still chose drive it at the level it was being driven at anyway, apparently.

If that is indeed the case, that worked out for them so well for them :? I personally think TAS was far better off, staying independent and planning accordingly, based on that. I think it'll work-out as big pity the power link ever got installed originally. It has been installed, whether it was a good move that's the question, it'll be interesting to see, whether history views it, as a short-sighted lets make buck now move or something else remains to be seen.
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Re: Who gets the power

Postby Gordon-Loomberah » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:18 pm

There is talk of building a 2nd Basslink to export wind power to the mainland, but who knows if it will ever be built. There isn't much in the way of Tas wind power generation ATM, but there is a huge resource down there in the roaring forties...
unlike in Loomberah, where it averaged a massive 2km/hr for August. Still there has been a 50% increase for Sept so far! ;)
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