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Re: EMP resistant?

Postby Tracker » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:38 am

masonranch wrote:....To be safe a Faraday cage is usually solid sheet metal like the Home depot metal trash can ($25).


Were I planning for DoomsDay, then solid metal would be the first choice... a SECURITY case..
I would think that that generator would survive the blast, but disappear, the second night when someone else realises that YOUR's is still working..
Personal security from the "Have Nots", will be the likely biggest threat to survival..

I tend to think that the greatest threat will be from a "Dirty Bomb" here in Australia, rather than an actual bomb..and NEMP..

Bottom line - I think that if you do tread the "Prepar" road , you will devote sooooo much life to it, and if it does come, there will be others even more prepared to take it from you.. :cry:

If it happens, then there will be the chosen ones who will have had the necessary arrangements made for them, and the rest will be collateral damage..

What screen works with Ebola, I wonder.. :idea: :?:
According the "Chatter" this Ebola has been GEed to continually mutate, but can you believe that chatter.. :lol:

As for EMP-Proofing solar panels - I think that I would not worrie, and I would have a spare set of panels, and enjoy the MAXIMUM benefits of the exposed ones, for the time being.. Again, it is such a miniscule threat..

Bear in mind that we mostly live in cities, and rely on the GRID for our power..
So IF PREPing was your want, then an Off-Grid system would be stored, at the ready, for when the grid goes pfuft... and the battery maintained at float from solar or the grid..
and, assuming that there was an actual blast associated with the EMP, then I doubt that the PV panels would survive the shock wave, even under a security screen.. :roll:
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Re: EMP resistant?

Postby davidg » Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:26 pm

Tracker wrote: I would think that the generator would survive the blast, but disappear, the second night when someone else realises that YOUR's is still working.. Personal security from the "Have Nots".............
Bottom line - I think that if you do tread the "Prepar" road.

Ah com'n prepping can be great fun, even if it does take over your life.
All that doom and gloom can leave one suffering paranoia ........ :lol: :lol:
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Re: EMP resistant?

Postby masonranch » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:16 am

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Tracker wrote:...assuming that there was an actual blast associated with the EMP, then I doubt that the PV panels would survive the shock wave, even under a security screen.. :roll:




Good points except an EMP set off 300 miles up say over Omaha will have no blast, no radiation. No one, even those directly under it, will die from blast/radiation effects.

Your point about the stealing of the generator would be more likely in a city situation. We live on a sparsley populated (for the US) farm. Running lights at night without blackout curtains would proably not be wise.

If you are going to keep a spare PV set, it must be kept in a Faraday shed otherwise, even with no wires tied to it, it will be fried. So if you have a metal roof, the mesh can cover the Array, bonded to the metalic roof. Then specific surge arresters described in the EMP book could protect the array from induced surge. That would probably be cheaper than a complete set of spares kept in a big enough Faraday cage.

I do find that prepping, including food storage and planning is addictive. It's like solving a really interesting mystery. Do you get National Geographics "Doomsday Preppers" in Australia?
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Re: EMP resistant?

Postby Tracker » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:32 am

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NG.. "Prepers" .. we do have it.. I have watched a few episodes .. not greatly interesting... More a case of being interesting as to how much folk can spend on what is an unlikely event

Look... it is indeed an interesting scenario.. I again suggest that here in Sydney, our risk is lower than in some other countries.. how much you spend to be prepared, is a significant issue.. And

Even being "aware" of security needs, ie blackout conditions..
I would seriously think that the city thugs would be the first to head for the countryside, searching for those that were prepared, and curtains would be seen as an invitation to look harder..
Naturally... you can use that 50cal. to blow em all away..

No... I don't have the money to waste on DD Preping, when I consider that Ebola or similar will be the likely greater threat, because an unfriendly can fly in with a test tube up their A@@@, and release it..
And... we are all aware that there are unfriendlies amongst us, keen for access to 70 virgins.. ;)

Comment on TV today about the staff needed to treat those US aide workers.. it was many dozens..
So the reality is that a real outbreak would collapse the system.. :cry:

Now, you have a good reason to prepare for that, with self sustaining food production, but I admit that in suburbia, one can never completely prepare for self sufficiency..
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Re: EMP resistant?

Postby masonranch » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:59 am

Tracker wrote:..
Look... it is indeed an interesting scenario.. I again suggest that here in Sydney, our risk is lower than in some other countries.. how much you spend to be prepared, is a significant issue..

, but I admit that in suburbia, one can never completely prepare for self sufficiency.
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Yes the Untied States and Europe would probably be the prime targets for an EMP attack. Lucky you! But just remember it only takes one EMP to take down the US power grid. Australia is about the size of the US. Can you be sure that Australia wouldn't be worth just one Nuclear EMP that would take down Perth to Sydney and everything in between? Hopefully you would be OK. However there is also a Solar EMP that would spare no one just depending on chance as far as earth rotation at the time. The carrington event in 1859, which was strong enough to set telegraph poles on fire would not, necessarily spare Australia. Undoubtedly I am more concerned for us and personal EMP preparedness as well as that of our local government i.e. sherrif, Ambulance, Hospitals etc. Our county is a net exporter of food, so properly organize no one need die of starvation.
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