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Re: 40k for off grid am i crazy

Postby Tracker » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:59 am

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There are various outfits assembling "Off-Grid" packages..

http://www.positronicsolar.com/

I have visited this mob and have to say that I am impressed with their professionalism.
They plan monitoring, into their installations, so that THEY can be the ones saying "Something is not quite right"..
To me, this is a real PLUS as they will tell you when the system may need attention, rather than finding that it has collapsed and was seriously compromised..

Being Brisbane based... they will be relatively "Local" for you..

A couple of callers here , have turned to them and chosen them, because of the nature of the package and the permanent support..
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Re: 40k for off grid am i crazy

Postby KPrawn68 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:09 pm

The price sounds just like the "it" price we get told to quote on the phone. $40-50K if the customer doesn't drop the phone then you can deal with them. Designing the system to a customers specific needs is time consuming and reality is customer always under quotes their power requirements so safety margins need be in place.
I recently designed a 2 bedroom container house with solar and batteries that came in just over $35K fully furnished.
Shop around and as you need power ensure you get quality..
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Re: 40k for off grid am i crazy

Postby Tracker » Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:38 pm

KPrawn68 wrote:The price sounds just like the "it" price we get told to quote on the phone. $40-50K ....


I think that with these "systems", the price can be fairly fixed, as the whole thing come preassembled, ready to wire and either use old panels or install new ones..
I have no link with them, but appreciate the package.. Being a standard package, I suspect that it will remain serviceable for a considerable time, as distinct for some system cobbled together from current model bibsNbobs...

The best help now would've to identify similar suitable systems..

I could cobble together a system for much less, but I would not want to be responsible for it for the next 15 years..
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Re: 40k for off grid am i crazy

Postby keystone » Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:18 pm

Hi guru's :D
this is where it is at
Trannergy PVI5400TL vs Schneider PVSNVC 5000
please what are your thoughts
The Schneider adding about $2000.00 to a system worth already 58,000 wow :shock:
12kw system 8kva generator
will tell you who i am about to lock in in after this response
So gratefull lads,honestly :D
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Re: 40k for off grid am i crazy

Postby Tracker » Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:21 am

keystone wrote:Trannergy PVI5400TL vs Schneider PVSNVC 5000


To be fair... I have no idea about the Schneider... I have read a deal about the Trannergy, and so far,nothing bad.

Do I presume that this quote is from Positronic Solar... ;)

My observation here is that they have based most of their business on that inverter and there are lots out there.
Thus, I believe they have confidence in the Trannnergy... I am planning on going to those PVI's in the long run..
SO ---- do confirm what the package is and why you consider it worth your investment..
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Re: 40k for off grid am i crazy

Postby keystone » Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:42 am

I can see there is no fooling you Tracker.
And your observations are correct
There was not 1 definitive reason for choosing them rather a culmination of key points.
price
new technology
quality components hopefully
small footprint
turn key operation, generator inclusive
fast customer follow up speedy response to emails and phone calls
negotiable
serviceability of system
confidence
good existing customer reference
Systems seem to be over engineered for performance, better to have and not need than need and not have just the way I like things, without being over complicated
full installation able to organize contractors

digesting it all over weekend but likely to seal next week
unless persuaded else where
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Re: 40k for off grid am i crazy

Postby frubop » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:41 am

Hi keystone,

How did you go deciding on the system? I noticed you are in Bacchus Marsh, I am not too far away near Ballarat. There are a few local installers in Ballarat that do a good job. We had a local bloke install our system that I designed (with a little tweaking from some users on here ;)).

Our system is

3.75kw panels
3kw 48v outback inverter
Outback FM80 charge controller
24 x 2v 900AH BAE batteries

A bit smaller than what you are after but all up cost around 21K
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Re: 40k for off grid am i crazy

Postby Tracker » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:18 pm

I too wonder what the outcome was..
RUBYGirl went for that system and is VERY happy.

The clear benefit is that they build SUPPORT into the package.. ie. They will likely tell you if something is wrong ... long b4 you even know it. I suspect that most "system installers", want to forget you asap after install, (except our David)

If you seek a discrete and functional system, then I would not hesitate..

Based on lithium technology,they can give more daily power for a smaller size.. :idea:
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Re: 40k for off grid am i crazy

Postby davidg » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:05 pm

Tracker wrote:I suspect that most "system installers", want to forget you asap after install, (except our David)

I've gotta love that don't I 8-)
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Re: 40k for off grid am i crazy

Postby chrisv » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:49 pm

davidg wrote:
Tracker wrote:I suspect that most "system installers", want to forget you asap after install, (except our David)

I've gotta love that don't I 8-)


I sure hope he is on the mark.................. ;)
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