Meter change-over experiences

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Re: Meter change-over experiences

Postby davidg » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:33 pm

Good grief :shock: that's a real hotch potch board.

If it was my board I'd be redoing the entire board to current STD's, but thats me. ;) ;)
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Re: Meter change-over experiences

Postby GarnZ » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:23 pm

Davidg, I agree it's a mess of a board.
The house was built in 1973 as a project home " Caladonia" by AV Jennings.
I recall noticing then that the board was made of a used insulation material that has marking and writing on it that said Prospect Council. I guessed this material must have been hard to get at this time.

As time went on, this switchboard grew, it had a safety surge cutout (forget what you call them!) and 3 air conditioning fuse switches units fitted (1 x Dinning ,1x family room and 1 x covering 3 bedrooms. Also, the two new meters, when I obtained Solar to replace the original meter.

This ain't the problem.... It's the instructions and recommendations how I proceed regarding and before my next big electricity bill.... I will address this ugly looking switchboard later!
Nice of you to comment! I only illustrated the meter to show others how to identify the "Structure 25" meter and somehow, help to take the mystery out of this exercise.
I don't expect it would be appreciated or legal that a mechanical engineer would take the role of a licence electrician to re-hasch this switchboard. However, I might get the ASP2 to make recommendations when I find one.

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Re: Meter change-over experiences

Postby GarnZ » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:48 pm

Some more trivial info from a pending NSW meter conversion.
My neighbour who is with AGL was notified that an electrician will be calling between 6th and 17 Feb to adjust his meter from "Gross" to "Net", no alternatives are stated.
He has the same meter as I have, a "Schedule 25", as previously mentioned.
I will be interested to hear how much he has to pay for the conversion of his meter, or will it be put on the never-never and included on his bills, from this day forth?
Also, what the extra daily charges are for being connected.

I have heard nothing from my supplier "Energy Australia". Great customer relations!

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Re: Meter change-over experiences

Postby melmik » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:05 am

Meter change over experience is basically sit and wait until Origin get their act together. As described in another post we had the lecko turn up in December only to be surprised to find we had 2-phase power, so no changeover as Origin didn't have multiphase meters capable of remote switching from gross to net on Dec 31.

Called Origin today to check on 'progress' and was advised that it might be March now, but there is no actual scheduled date, so may be later than that. I asked why so slow when they had 5 years to plan for this and was told that they couldn't know what type of meters customers had, that was Ausgrids responsibility.

So I asked her who is installing and will own the new meters, and that is Origin. Asked what would happen if I got one installed sooner and payed for it, she claimed Origin as my retailer would still own it....hmmm

Asked why origin as the installer didn't know what meters I had since I had discussed them with origin over some billing issues, and was told origin can't be expected to keep that sort of information.

The rate freeze plan we are on is reasonable (compared to other plans and other companies) and has time to run, and also having gas with Origin makes it all a pain in the bum to move, but I cannot understand how such a large company can be so badly incompetent. And have so little concern for the customer.
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Re: Meter change-over experiences

Postby jaahn » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:26 am

Hi melmik :)
It is hard to understand how some companies do keep going ?? The CEO comes in and sets up a good billing system that rakes in money and generous upper staff payment system then goes on a fact finding tour of the globe till the next meeting :roll:

I understood that there was a (central ??) register of everyones meter and number to facilitate the transfer and porting of accounts. But of course nothing useful is noted on that obviously. Or is it that they just do not care to look :idea:

I previously had two gas meters and some years back we cancelled one service. So they came and removed it and dug up the pipe and would have charged for the privilege. Luckily I returned as they started digging that day. I pointed out that they were removing the incorrect one and was abused and had to argue the toss with the "boss". When I asked to see his paperwork it had no reference to the meter number at all. I pointed them to the other side of the house and they were very shirty about my intervention. NOT ONLY THAT but my wife had a note on a piece of paper tied to both meters pointing out the correct one and the incorrect one !! We anticipated that stuff up :roll: I wonder why ?
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Re: Meter change-over experiences

Postby davidg » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:41 pm

melmik wrote:was told that they couldn't know what type of meters customers had, that was Ausgrids responsibility.

As much as I hate to say it that is essentially correct.

melmik wrote:she claimed Origin as my retailer would still own it....hmmm

When or if you change retailers then, what, the meter magically transfers ownership to the next retailer?
I suspect the meter will actually be owned by the distributor, thats the way it works in Vic anyway.

melmik wrote:Asked why origin as the installer didn't know what meters I had since I had discussed them with origin over some billing issues, and was told origin can't be expected to keep that sort of information.

They really don't care, all they care about is the numbers they get from them and Origin are actually a real bunch of pests and "PITA" as well.

melmik wrote:but I cannot understand how such a large company can be so badly incompetent. And have so little concern for the customer.

They have total of between 1000 and 1500 max for the whole of AUS and excellent at being leeches. Mainly glorified billing system doing little apart from adding another layer of PITA while offering as little as possible while making as large a profit as possible for mostly crappy service. All retailers fall into this as well some make more effort to make you happier, but really there all leeches.
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Re: Meter change-over experiences

Postby melmik » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:24 am

Leeches..... Yep, that pretty much describes energy retailers. Why the hell can't we just have distributors billing us? Oh that's right - in that case the govt couldnt have given their corporate partners the chance to invent retailers with rights to extort money from us for an essential service.

Ausgrid own the current meters. Origin arrange the changeover electrician and will own the new meters. Origin are too lazy to check with Ausgrid to find out meter configurations, so they send the lecko to waste his time.

Origins claim to own any meter I buy outright and have installed is incorrect, but can I legally do this? As my chosen (not mandated) retailer I assume they only have a right to obtain the metering data and bill me for useage etc.

I may as well accept Origins eventual meter install (i checked - zero cost to me) I can move any time to another retailer and Origin can do or charge nothing about it.

Then go thru the whole load shifting mess to try and make the best use of the resources I paid for (solar) and the least use of the overpriced shit service Origin provides. Like most consumers, i just want simplicity, stability (and as environmentally friendly as possible) at a fair price, not constant change and ever rising prices and threats of solar taxes, solar metering charges etc etc.
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Re: Meter change-over experiences

Postby jaahn » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:50 am

Hi :D
I know this is preaching to the converted but anyway :lol:
The privatisation of the electricity system was touted as saving money, making jobs etc etc. 2000+ new jobs were created it was claimed some time back. A further analysis later discovered that they were largely casual low paid rubbish jobs for people going door to door trying to get customers in the city(mainly) to change providers. We in the city know about it :roll:
What is worse as it turns out was the major incentive were the profits made by the retailers by the churning this caused and the charges etc incurred by the customers in the process. What a debacle the system is ! I am tempted to go off the grid only to put them out of business. But that might be self destructive so I control myself :evil:
WE hope the disruption of the solar/battery revolution will get some back to being a SERVICE PROVIDER which they were once.
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Re: Meter change-over experiences

Postby davidg » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:54 pm

jaahn wrote:WE hope the disruption of the solar/battery revolution will get some back to being a SERVICE PROVIDER which they were once.


Nope all that's done is make a bunch of them all bitter and twisted. Then they come up some inane idiotic things they were proposing. They then got all defensive about it, when the public poured a giant dam of water on the cheek of even suggesting such an option, let alone trying to take it further, and they felt it was unfair about the backlash, utter idiots.

http://reneweconomy.com.au/networks-pro ... ons-28523/

http://reneweconomy.com.au/networks-to- ... rid-26649/

http://reneweconomy.com.au/should-austr ... rid-30082/
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Re: Meter change-over experiences

Postby Icarus » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:37 pm

Hi ,
I rang EA mid December they have a department devote to the change over but they basically wait for you to ring them .
I signed up for one year contract with "free" meter change if its not installed by the end of January they credit me $40.00 a month . oh they also so include a wash of the panels once a year . After a year I will know how many batteries I will need and going off grid would be the aim .
I have a Str 25 meter looking at the NSW Solar Bonus Scheme Net Conversions pdf it looks like a simple rewire for an ASP2 to do no job number required .
If this drags on to long it may be worth getting it done to get onto net metering and use my own power .
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