rg767 wrote:Almost sorry I missed some of this.
No one else is sorry you missed anything , only sorry you are back.
rg767 wrote:zzsstt even used a newspaper article form 1889 as data
Sure he did but it was an example , what data have you provided at all in this discussion ?
rg767 wrote:I am saying that things are bit by bit getting more extreme as a result of it, and will continue to do so
Where is your proof ? and now you have proof of the future as well ?
rg767 wrote:Perhaps though, in time, so extreme that life on the planet becomes unsustainable. End of story
Can we see a picture your crystal ball please ?
rg767 wrote:and there are many precedents for civilisations wiping themselves out via their treatment of the environmental.
Really ? , certainly plenty of theories but no actual proof , no proof that any civilisation changed the environment to the detriment of their existence.
rg767 wrote:But I will leave it there. As I have mentioned, the only people that know how to argue this with any degree is certainty are probably not typing to one another here.
Exactly they are all out giving conferences and promoting Climate change , no doubt all making a few dollars !
To date you have not provided a shred of evidence supporting your "so called argument" .
rg767 wrote:No I believe you
rg767 wrote:I am not going to argue that I have the numerical proof to hand though. I could find it, as I know where to look, but I have a job
Of course you don't , to date you have no proof of anything other than your opinion and a single link to the IPPC's website.
rg767 wrote:I don't have a problem believing that the science shows a shift in extremes
obviously you don't have a problem believing but where is your proof , discrediting everything zzsstt provides is not proof of anything other than your beliefs.
rg767 wrote:Queenslands floods were comprised of 5% more rainfall than the previous ever worst floods to my knowledge
Really ? where is your proof ?
rg767 wrote:I also suspect that the complexity, the ubiquity and cost of infrastructure of civilisation now is much more prone to damage by extreme weather events, but in my view that doesn't lessen the idea that they are getting worse.
In your view! were is the proof ?
rg767 wrote:on Glaciers - the simple answer is that they are great to look t because their age is well known due to the composition of particulate matter in the ice - this is all measurable.
On checking data, you don't know, and you shouldn't guess yourself.
Why dont you check what it is they are doing
You are the one that bought glacier length shortening into this discussion, now you expect zzsstt to come up with the evidence ?
rg767 wrote:Joey has put forward hardly an argument, but its frankly unsurprising. Yes you are entitled to reply, but it wont mean necessarily that you don't look like a goose. It doesn't mean that I will address your bile either.
Tracker said this, which I think is agreement with Joey's eloquent and knowledgeable words
Ok now lets have a look at the knowledge and Eloquence of a true goose!
Page 15 rg767 Wrote: "Perhaps everyone has lost interest in arguing about stuff made up by right wing nuts"
Page 16 rg767 Wrote: "Your post is just more of the same accusation and innuendo. Where do you come up with this stuff?"
Page 16 rg767 Wrote: "I know you haven't read it because your responses show an ignorance "
Page 16 rg767 Wrote: "This is convenient, and lazy"
Page 16 rg767 Wrote: "I'm the troll you people had to have!"
Page 16 rg767 Wrote: "don't blame me for you making a reply. I guess you were happier when it was all one sided eh?"
Page 16 rg767 Wrote: "I believe (and cant be bothered qualifying it) that around 50% of the practicing scientists in the world work in the military technology sector, meaning they are probably the most likely to have money to burn"
Page 16 rg767 Wrote: "Wasn't this you, trollmaster?"
Page 17 rg767 Wrote: " I actually don't know what the area of the land mass for example of Australia is, but its big"
Page 17 rg767 Wrote: "there is no such thing as cool or heat, they are subjective human terms only. There is only energy"
Page 17 rg767 Wrote: "Heating increases evaporation which increases the concentration of atmospheric water vapour"
( there is no such thing as heat haha )
Page 18 rg767 Wrote: "you have nothing new to offer aside from denial and sneaky, iterative argument"
Page 18 rg767 Wrote: "Scientitscarent in disagreement, you have just chosen to parrot this line"
Page 19 rg767 Wrote: "On famous scientists - this is borne of ignorance"
Page 21 rg767 Wrote: " you may not comprehend it, but all that does it count you out of a meaningful discussion"
Page 21 rg767 Wrote: "We have accidentally altered the climate to our disbenefit"
Page 21 rg767 Wrote: "Thats not skepticism, that's just denial, and it puts you in the company of big tobacco, et al."
Page 21 rg767 Wrote: "your post is extremely ignorant"
Page 22 rg767 Wrote: " the only people that know how to argue this with any degree is certainty are probably not typing to one another here."
Page 22 rg767 Wrote: "Joey demonstrated his anger and ignorance"
Page 22 rg767 Wrote: "it doesn't mean that I will address your bile either"
Page 22 rg767 Wrote: "*Believe that CFLs are out to get us.
It makes me wonder what else it is that you believe, or just don't know.
Let the obscenities begin"