Opinions on this bike.

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Opinions on this bike.

Postby Whitespeed » Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:13 pm

Hi all,

I am considering a LightningBolt TD4 5000watt, for my now shortened commute to work. Has anyone had experience with them.
They have a demo that is a few years old that seems like good value on eBay ATM. I figured this might be a good introduction to EV's
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Re: Opinions on this bike.

Postby offgridQLD » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:50 am

Looks ok to me if your After a scooter for the sub 90kph speed zones. Should cover all areas inner and outer suburbs all but the freeways. 80ish km range (count on 60km until it proves otherwise)

72v- 50Ah lifepo4 is a good start. Just make sure the ex demo (old model) has lifpo4 cells and not lead acid. See if you can do a capacity test on the 2nd hand model (how much range do you get from it now). There isn't much to go wrong on the big direct drive in wheel hub motors other than a few bearings and seals. The controllers are usually trouble free until you start upping the voltage beyond factory spec. Even then they are a inexpensive to replace.

Bikes and scooters can be a good way to get into EV's as the cost is typically lower . 15k is about the cheapest I have seen a pure EV car in Au 2nd hand gen1 2010 Imiev. The scooter at 5k new is much more affordable.

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Re: Opinions on this bike.

Postby Whitespeed » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:27 am

Thanks for the feedback Kurt. 60 km range should be plenty as my new commute is only 15 km return. The top speed will not be ideal, but given most of our rural roads are pretty quiet and frequently contain bicycles, I can get away with 80 kmh.

The breakdown of the trips speed limits is 2km of gravel at 60. 3 km of rural highway at 100 kmh and 2.5 of town at 60, so shouldn't be too big a problem.

Was hoping to find out if anyone has used these before and if they are practical, or if they are a toy that may disappoint. This is also the reason I looked at the demo ones. At $2000 if they are useless it can live in the back of the shed and I have not lost a fortune :)
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Re: Opinions on this bike.

Postby offgridQLD » Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:01 pm

If its 2k and has lithium cells and it's in good working condition then you cant go wrong.

I would say any machine that is capable of 95kph top speed isn't a toy in the true sense. I think you will find it will take off to 60kph like a 200cc+ scooter and then perform like a 80 - 100cc scooter at speeds above 60kph.

Best bet is just take one for a ride and see what you think of it.

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Re: Opinions on this bike.

Postby Whitespeed » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:04 pm

Think I might do just that :) in WA on holidays for another 6 days, when I get back I will take the cruiser down to Melbourne for the day and take it for a spin. That way if I like it I can throw it in the back to save a special trip ;)
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